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data-orig-size=\"700,466\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"CONV09_RZ_06-700&amp;#215;466\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.grieta.org.mx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/CONV09_RZ_06-700x466-300x200.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.grieta.org.mx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/CONV09_RZ_06-700x466.jpg\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p>Dando continuidad a lo que sucedi\u00f3 el s\u00e1bado, cuando don Pablo Gonz\u00e1lez Casanova fue nombrado Comandante y pas\u00f3 a integrar el Comit\u00e9 Clandestino Revolucionario Ind\u00edgena, el EZLN anunci\u00f3 ayer, en voz del Subcomandante Galeano, la formaci\u00f3n de un nuevo ej\u00e9rcito insurgente. Un ej\u00e9rcito \u201ccon el cabello cano, o sin cabello, en silla de ruedas o en bastones o muletas, que no escucha bien, que no ve bien, al que le tiemblan las manos pero no de miedo, sino de impaciencia\u201d; un ej\u00e9rcito que \u201cno traer\u00e1 armas de fuego ni bombas\u2026 sino algo m\u00e1s mort\u00edfero, m\u00e1s letal y m\u00e1s poderoso: memoria e historia\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Es armado con historia y memoria que el zapatismo, al igual que el CNI y el CIG, se propone a enfrentar la muerte en que estamos sumergidos. Porque, como apunt\u00f3 Sergio Rodr\u00edguez Lazcano, bajo el cemento de la ciudad est\u00e1 la tierra; o sea, la historia de los pueblos. As\u00ed, el caminar del CIG y de Marichuy fue y es un encuentro de ra\u00edces entretejidas que bordan caminos preguntando y siembran semillas de un mundo otro capaz de resurgir de entre los escombros de \u00e9ste que se est\u00e1 derrumbando.<\/p>\n<p>Los s\u00edntomas de ese derrumbe en el panorama pol\u00edtico mexicano fueron esbozados con precisi\u00f3n por Sergio Rodr\u00edguez, mostrando con datos el callej\u00f3n sin salida de la pol\u00edtica de los de arriba, en un momento en que la ideolog\u00eda fue abandonada y de lo que se trata ahora es de ganar espacios de poder, cueste lo que cueste. El despojo (palabra derivada del lat\u00edn despoliare, que significa \u201cquitarle la piel a la tierra\u201d), como bien lo ha expresado el CNI una y otra vez, constituye un verdadero proceso de genocidio en el que, literalmente, los pueblos est\u00e1n amenazados de desaparecer. Pero es justamente ante la inminencia de la muerte colectiva que los pueblos organizados en el CNI deciden conformar el CIG y pasar a la ofensiva.<\/p>\n<p>La valoraci\u00f3n de lo que ha sido el caminar del CIG est\u00e1 en proceso, no s\u00f3lo al interior del CNI, sino incorporando las miradas y las voces de todas y todos. As\u00ed escuchamos a Rafael Casta\u00f1eda, quien hace un recuento de lo que fue la experiencia del Partido de los Comunistas en la recaudaci\u00f3n de firmas para Marichuy. Entre las diversas an\u00e9cdotas, est\u00e1 la de quienes hablaban con quienes se acercaban durante minutos u horas, y s\u00f3lo al final preguntaban si ten\u00edan credencial de elector, dejando claro as\u00ed que de lo que se trataba no era simplemente de recolectar firmas, sino de dar cauce a la rabia hacia la organizaci\u00f3n y la lucha colectiva.<\/p>\n<p>De la misma manera Magda G\u00f3mez se refiri\u00f3 al \u201cefecto Marichuy\u201d como un despertar que entra\u00f1a la pr\u00e1ctica de otra forma de hacer pol\u00edtica. Comparti\u00f3 que temi\u00f3 en su momento que se perdiera el punto de encuentro entre la recolecci\u00f3n de firmas y su verdadero objetivo, encarnado en el caminar de Marichuy y del CIG, pero que en definitiva ese encuentro hab\u00eda quedado muy claro.<\/p>\n<p>Tanto Magda como B\u00e1rbara Zamora hablaron del desencuentro entre las formas de la justicia propia de los pueblos originarios y las instituciones del Estado, que se fundamenta en un desencuentro de visiones y la imposici\u00f3n de una sobre la otra. Y ambas, como abogadas, apuntaron a la lucha jur\u00eddica como un espacio \u00fatil y a veces necesario, a pesar de reconocer que en ese lugar no van a ocurrir las transformaciones a las que aspiramos.<\/p>\n<p>Pero, si nos est\u00e1n matando, como tan visceralmente nos dieron a entender Gabriela J\u00e1uregui y Abraham Cruz el d\u00eda anterior, y si los espacios de la institucionalidad no son ni ser\u00e1n camino para la vida, entonces \u00bfqu\u00e9?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLos estamos llamando a destruir el mundo totalmente\u201d, dijo el SupGaleano, y a construir otro desde abajo, buscando la vida. \u00bfQue si estamos so\u00f1ando? \u201cCuando planteamos el horizonte\u201d, dijo el Sup, \u201cno estamos so\u00f1ando; estamos recordando\u201d. \u00bfQue si es posible? La probabilidad es m\u00ednima, dijo\u2026 es casi imposible. Pero es imprescindible \u201caferrarse a esa millon\u00e9sima de probabilidad\u201d. Una probabilidad tan min\u00fascula, record\u00f3 el SupGaleano en su breve genealog\u00eda del zapatismo, como lo fue que, tras el levantamiento de 1994, sucediera lo que sucedi\u00f3. Y en este camino, el nombramiento del Comandante Pablo Contreras y el llamado a conformar este nuevo ej\u00e9rcito insurgente de la memoria conlleva un mensaje muy claro: \u201cEstamos llamando a las filas de la lucha a la historia, a los muertos, a los desaparecidos, a los olvidados\u201d. Y tal vez entonces se abran las tumbas y quienes murieron vuelvan a caminar, y los desaparecidos reaparecer\u00e1n.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=26916\">https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=26916<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dando continuidad a lo que sucedi\u00f3 el s\u00e1bado, cuando don Pablo Gonz\u00e1lez Casanova fue nombrado Comandante y pas\u00f3 a integrar el Comit\u00e9 Clandestino Revolucionario Ind\u00edgena, el EZLN anunci\u00f3 ayer, en &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grieta.org.mx\/index.php\/2018\/04\/24\/heredar-el-deber-y-la-memoria-dia-9-conversatorio-miradas-escuchas-palabras-prohibido-pensar\/\" class=\"more-link\">Leer m\u00e1s<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":22613,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[80,1157,907],"tags":[1164,1158,466],"class_list":["post-22612","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cintillo","category-conversatorio-miradas-escuchas-palabras-prohibido-pensar","category-ezln-2","tag-cideci","tag-conversatorio","tag-ezln","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.grieta.org.mx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/CONV09_RZ_06-700x466.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p7ZJR4-5SI","jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":22719,"url":"https:\/\/www.grieta.org.mx\/index.php\/2018\/04\/21\/juntxs-ante-el-colapso-dia-6-conversatorio-miradas-escuchas-palabras-prohibido-pensar\/","url_meta":{"origin":22612,"position":0},"title":"\u00bfJuntxs ante el colapso? \u2013 D\u00eda 6, Conversatorio \u201cMiradas, escuchas, palabras: \u00bfprohibido pensar?\u201d","author":"grieta","date":"21 abril, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Si alguien a\u00fan cre\u00eda que la tormenta era apenas una met\u00e1fora, una muy filosa y oscura pero soportable, esta tarde los compas Zapatistas la volvieron expl\u00edcita al traer al Conversatorio la valoraci\u00f3n de Carlos Taibo en su libro \u201cColapso. Capitalismo terminal, transici\u00f3n ecosocial, ecofascismo\u201d. 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